Black and white illustration of the outline of a dog against what looks like abstract grass. The outline of the dog is white, so it's as if the dog disappeared and now there's just a space where the dog was. There's a leash around the invisible dog's neck, and a ball at its feet.

Off Leash

Episode #258

2024-02-23 05:00:38


“I never did anything wrong. I never had a speeding ticket. I think I just saved all my stuff up for just one thing.” We speak with Toby Dorr, who started a prison dog training program in 2004. That’s how she met John Manard. 

Toby Dorr’s memoir is Living With Conviction.

This episode was originally released in 2019.